** Exclusive ** Interview with John McNamee
Monday, 8 February 2010
Last Sunday I broke the story about Cllr John McNamee defecting from Labour to the SNP. Since then there have been some stories about why he left the SNP and various attacks on his character.
I offered John the chance to tell us what was really going on in the SNP and why he left and I am delighted that he agreed. Here is what he said, the questions are all mine:
1. What was it that made you disillusioned with the SNP?
I have becoming increasing disillusioned with the SNP for sometime now. The big thing is that I have come to the conclusion that Independence is not a good choice for Scotland. The Global Financial Crisis has put into sharp focus the inherent problems that small nations face. I also feel in an increasingly Globalised age where countries and organisations are working together, then to take a regressive step backwards and divorce ourselves from a rich social and economic union with the rest of the United Kingdom would be simply wrong. The SNP’s decision to axe GARL is another example of not sticking up for the West of Scotland, sadly political considerations have went before the needs of those in the West.
2. Do many of your ex-colleagues privately agree with you on GARL and the concordat?
Absolutely! It’s very sad that the party machinery crushes free and open debate in SNP, particularly on the issue of GARL in the West Coast of Scotland. Also, I think ordinary members were disappointed that Glasgow SNP MSP’s never took the opportunity to stand up for Glasgow and the West of Scotland.
3. The SNP seems incredibly loyal from the outside. Are councillors and MSP’s privately getting angry with the lack of support for independence?
I would say that the Nationalists are taking an increasingly gradualist approach to their big policy platform. This is having a huge impact on the morale of the ordinary party member. Elected Members of the Party have to hold the line publicly but there are private misgivings about the party’s ability to appease the base of the party for much longer.
4. Within local government there are reports of SNP groups being bitterly divided, is there any truth in this?
It gives me no pleasure at all to confirm that SNP Council groups are incredibly divided. The main problem is there is nothing that unites them. All SNP Members joined the party to campaign for Scottish Independence. At Local Government Level that is simply never going to happen, unless of course a SNP Controlled Unitary Authority declares themselves Independent form the rest of Scotland.
In contrast to that, the Labour Party Council Groups across Scotland are united by a shared belief in equality for all members of society and believe passionately in a brighter future that promotes more opportunities across the broad spectrum of British Society.
6. Councillors and parliamentary researchers are often seen as a parties’ next generation of politicians, how would you rate the SNP’s councillors and activists?
Every Party has talented individuals. It would be wrong of me to unfairly criticise people who believe in something different from me, at the end of the day that is democracy in action, and I would have it no other way. All I can say is that I wish no ill feeling to any member of the SNP; I just hope that one day they see the light like I did!
7. Were there certain people within the Labour party that persuaded you to join?
I was persuaded by the Labour Group’s track record in South Lanarkshire. The leadership of Councillor Eddie McAvoy is first class, and I will be working hard to continue the delivery of exceptional services and facilities in the area.
8. There have been some stories about expenses issues and misconduct, is there any truth in these allegations?
The truth of the matter is a lot more boring than the press have made out. The misconduct issue refers to my Christmas Night Out at a Fire Event. I, like many Scots, had too much to drink and hold my hands up to this. It was foolish behaviour and I have personally apologised to all the relevant parties.
In terms of the expenses allegations from my former colleagues, they are being very mischievous and perhaps even libellous. The simple fact of the matter is that I have to attend a lot of events and meetings for my job and I don’t drive a car. So I use buses, trains and sometimes I use taxis depending on the meeting. I use taxis to my get to my surgeries because there is literally no other form of transport available to me at that time of night.
The actual claims have been very modest and every single one of them for approved Council Duties; in terms of the 67 Elected Members of South Lanarkshire Council I believe I rank below mid-table in the annual expenses total.
I have been very disappointed that the SNP have reacted so viciously against me when I told them I was leaving the party, for a party that wants to be in Government it is very distasteful behaviour.
9. What are your future ambitions within the party?
I don’t have any personal ambitions; I would just like to see a Scotland that is flourishing as part of a fairer Britain under Labour.

12 comments:
dear yousuf mr john mcmamee has said that scotland is better under uk rule and that is his choice but the people voted for a person standing for the snp. Should mr ncnamee stand down and stand again as a labour candidate so giving the people the choice of keeping him or elect a new snp member.
Andrew Roberts snp cumbernauld north
Either this bloke was a liability and about to be done for diddling expenses, something he may find more common in the Labour party based on the numbers having to go to court, or he has done nothing wrong.
His answer fell between the two.
Saying he claimed less than others did not mean he was not guilty, we learned that at Westminster.
A few more facts rather than waffle saying it was "boring" would have been better.
Still worth reading though.
I don't know if he is telling porky pies about his expense but he is certainly guilty of lying.
I note he has not named any of the people he claims are disappointed about the GARl decision. Perhaps he learned the lesson after Derek MacKay wrote to the Herald! The fact is that Renfrewshire SNP opposed the GARL proposal. That is a matter of public record - their submission to the consultation should still be available somewhere I imagine. Therefore the beliefs attributed by McNamee to Derek MacKay were purely fictitious - so I don't suggest anyone wastes their time reading anything else he says.
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Yousuf
You better not show him the Labour party 2002 manifesto for the Scottish Parliament. He may move to the Tories.
Glasgow and Edinburgh airport rail links completed before 2007. The transport minister one Iain Gray at the time was fully committed to this. What happened Yousuf.
Can I also remind you this administration between 2002 and 2007 returned £1 billion of Scotlands money to Westminster. So Labour had the money but decided Londons needs were more important than Glasgows.
Was a pat on the head for returning money to Westminster more important than a project for Glasgow.
Glasgow once again sold down the Clyde by the Labour party.
Goebbles in the house Yo Yousuf!, honestly Yousuf have you waterboarded him? Why does he read like the typical Labour party nonsense we see in the Daily Ranger? There is all too apparent integrity issues here.
This guy has been drinking from the same Buckie bottle as McLetchie. Although I suspect McLetchie at least believes that the Tories will outdo the SNP at the next election.
How did a guy like this ever even get looked at to represent the SNP?
"The Global Financial Crisis has put into sharp focus the inherent problems that small nations face"
LOL, just as the UK sneaks out of recession with 0.1% growth, dearie me, the SNP would better shot of this glory hunter.
The Global Financial Crisis has put into sharp focus the inherent problems that small nations face.)
Gibberish; smaller nations have shown that they could adapt and survive much more adequately than the bigger nations - with a few obvious exceptions such as Germany, who were just a lot stronger than us to start with. If anything, the opposite is true.
I also feel in an increasingly Globalised age where countries and organisations are working together, then to take a regressive step backwards and divorce ourselves
Gibberish. Again, smaller, more flexible economies can adapt better. Plus, an independent Scotland would be more Globalised, and be a full member of international bodies such as the UN and the EU and so forth. Such claims are entirely without merit, and are simply examples of Labour playing on the Scottish Cringe. It is suggesting Scotland would become some pariah state, cut off from the world. Utmost illogical, and blatantly untrue.
a rich social and economic union with the rest of the United Kingdom would be simply wrong
Gibberish. Who is suggesting an end to the social union? You cannot legislate for such things. I'm not going to cut off my family, just because they live on the other side of an imaginary line between two nations! And rich economic union? Are you actually having a laugh!? What's the 'national' debt heading towards, £1.5trillion?
The SNP’s decision to axe GARL is another example of not sticking up for the West of Scotland, sadly political considerations have went before the needs of those in the West.
Gibberish. Trying to create an artificial East-West divide is almost as disgusting as Labour's ploy to raise class tensions further South to attack the Tories. Are Labour that bad, that they must use such underhand tactics?
As Yousuf mentions in his next post, the SNP need to expand their vote in Glasgow, it's where they do least well. John Swinney is no stupid man, what possible political considerations would there be in annoying places we're trying to win over? That's entirely illogical! I honestly cannot fathom your thought processes whatsoever.
It’s very sad that the party machinery crushes free and open debate in SNP, particularly on the issue of GARL in the West Coast of Scotland.
Gibberish. The SNP are one of the very few parties in the UK that allow open and honest debate at all levels,, from branches through constituencies to full conferences.
I would say that the Nationalists are taking an increasingly gradualist approach to their big policy platform.
Gibberish. You're saying both that the party is too committed, and not committed enough to the idea of independence? One or the other, please.
It gives me no pleasure at all to confirm that SNP Council groups are incredibly divided.
Gibberish. That's simply not true in any of the Councils I've had dealings with.
In contrast to that, the Labour Party Council Groups across Scotland are united by a shared belief in equality for all members of society and believe passionately in a brighter future that promotes more opportunities across the broad spectrum of British Society.
It's a pity they don't reflect that in their policies or voting records then, isn't it?
I don’t have any personal ambitions; I would just like to see a Scotland that is flourishing as part of a fairer Britain under Labour.
Evidence that the poor man, is after all, living on another planet ;)
Grogipher
"Gibberish. Again, smaller, more flexible economies can adapt better."
The only "gibberish" I detect is in your post.
Care to explain your glib concatenation of "smaller" with "more flexible"?
The most flexible economy in the world is that of the USA. Perhaps you've heard of it, it isn't known for being "small".
North Korea, however, has a very small economy. Would you class that as "more flexible"?
The rest of your post displays a sadly typical level of Nat illogic and wishful thinking.
Care to explain your glib concatenation of "smaller" with "more flexible"?
Not really, since you were unable to put forward any real argument against any of my points. If it is "illogical", then pray, do explain why, thank you.
If you want to look at how smaller nations coped better, look at all the countries in Europe with fewer than 10m people, and see how they faired. Which ones were able to adapt quickest?
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